A mathematician's urgent message to students: don't abandon math because of AI

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A mathematician's urgent message to students: don't abandon math because of AI

Álvaro Lozano-Robledo responds to a student's desperate question about whether AI will make a math career impossible. He argues that AI companies are hyping their abilities to boost IPOs, while current LLMs only combine existing ideas. He urges students not to leave the field during this exciting time, as human mathematicians will remain essential.

I consider this to be the most exciting time in my mathematical career (since the year 2000 say). Truly, this may be the most thrilling moment in mathematics in the modern history of our discipline, and I would be terribly sad to see young people leave academia and miss out on the stunning opportunity to be at the frontlines of the current scientific revolution.
  1. unknownian

    You tell them to cancel their Astra subscriptions and get to work. Hundreds of mathematicians, including Peter Scholze, have already agreed to not use AI at all. There’s absolutely no reason to help train an AI that will just make your own life more miserable.

    https://www.ahmath.org/members

  2. hintymad

    > On the other hand, none of the proofs so far seem to contain “alien ideas,” a move-37, or completely novel arguments or new concepts that were not present in the literature in some form or another.

    I have the same optimism as Prof Tao. That said, I can understand why so many mathematicians have been so upset or stressed out. It turned out much of the mathematical work is about clever combination of existing methods - this already requires enormous amount human ingenuity and years of dedicated learning. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, AI can be very good at knowledge transfer and finding combination of existing ideas to solve seemingly impossible problems. Even though mathematicians are extremely smart and capable, only a small number of them are capable of truly inventing "alien ideas", discovering new ground-breaking mathematical structures, or coming up with new problem-solving techniques. That is, AI can eat many mathematicians' cake. That said, I'm still hopeful. Mathematicians still understand mathematics deeply. If someone can prompt AI to solve an important problem, that person is more likely a good mathematician than an average joe like me. So, I think mathematicians do have a bright future: leverage AI, and make more and bigger math discoveries. It's still the same north star: we must know, and we shall know. It's just that with AI, we will know sooner and more.

  3. mikestylz

    Just about anyone who has played a sport has heard that they have to target where the ball is moving to, not where the ball is right now. In this regard I am consistently disappointed with the commentary that mathematicians have been producing lately.

    As a student, I am actively making decisions which will shape my career for the next forty or so years. At a minimum a discussion like this should acknowledge the possibility that the current rate of AI progress continues apace. I understand the desire to be encouraging, but the best preparation for students involves the consideration of possibilities that current mathematicians negligently paper over.

    Of course it will get better at exposition than humans. And it will prompt itself in due time.

  4. reasonableklout

    This post in the blog comments is quite compelling. Some observations that publishing of research is drying up because results can be easily retrieved at any time. Over the long-term, I wonder whether this will result in accumulation of knowledge grinding to a halt:

    > With the latest ChatGPT models, these problems are more equivalent to homework questions: the answer is `in the back of the book.’ I am not discovering new solutions. Instead, I am working on problems whose answer exists and is simply waiting to be retrieved by a user of the model. In fact, I mentioned a problem that I was interested in working on to my advisor and he informed me that he and a collaborator had completely resolved it using ChatGPT – they have no plans to write up the result, so it will sit there until another `researcher’ pulls the proof slot machine.

    There is another good point that the most tenured researchers have a sense of what problems are most worth exploring and therefore are more likely to feel excitement than younger researchers:

    > I have also heard the contention that math research has `gotten more exciting,’ mainly from established researchers. They have decades of open problems that they care deeply about and want to see resolved. I have no such problems.

  5. huitzitziltzin

    Nice piece. I think the fundamental message that there is still demand for mathematicians and mathematics done by humans is fundamentally correct.

    I expect it will remain true into the future (10+ years). I have moderately high confidence (75% or higher) in this prediction.

    I use frontier AI models in my work all the time. I think they accelerate my work by helping me understand faster and prompt better.

    The models are most useful and most productivity-enhancing in the hands of experts and in the area of their expertise.

    I don’t expect a jobs apocalypse, not even in math.

  6. Eridrus

    There's going to be a massive reshaping of how mathematics is done. If you do not like where math is going (using computers to explore fully new ideas), and you have not committed to this path, it seems totally correct to opt out of it. There probably isn't going to be a technical field that isn't reshaped by this in the immediate future though, so there is unlikely to be anything that slots in cleanly as a replacement. Maybe the philosophy department.

  7. soltanov

    Treat the model as a compiler, not an oracle. You still must know how to specify the problem correctly, or you will only generate garbage faster.

  8. analog31

    I'm not a mathematician. I was a college math major, got a PhD in physics, and still enjoy math.

    It's not like "should I get a PhD" is a new question. It's not unheard of for unpredictable events to drastically affect the career prospects of PhDs in my field. During my lifetime:

    1. Mandatory retirement of professors was ruled illegal. While good for civil rights, it created a 10+ year gap in faculty retirements.

    2. End of the cold war.

    3. Transition of college teaching from tenured professors to gig workers, aka "adjuncts."

    The one constant during this time was the perpetual optimism of the faculty for the employment prospects of PhDs. "There will always be a need for physicists." My dad, also a PhD, confirmed that this goes back as early as the 1950s.

    I would add one question to the student's letter: What are the ethics of AI and its owners?

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