AI Giants Hide $1.65 Trillion in Off-Balance-Sheet Debt
AI Companies Are Trying to Hide a Staggering Amount of Debt
Five major US tech giants, including Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, and Oracle, are concealing an estimated $1.65 trillion in debt off their balance sheets to fund massive AI data center projects. This opaque accounting strategy mirrors the tactics used by Enron before its collapse, raising serious concerns about a potential AI bubble and the precarious financial health of the industry.
But what if one of these companies was a house of cards and was propping itself up with this accounting treatment? To me, that's the risk.
- senshan
As long as this debt does not make it into life insurance and pension funds, we are fine. The trouble is that private credit is taking control of some life insurance companies and off-loads this debt to these. When these fail, it will become everyone's problem.
> Risks to financial stability may also stem from entities with particularly high exposure to private credit markets, such as insurers influenced by private equity firms and certain groups of pension funds. The assets of private‐equity‐controlled insurers have grown significantly in recent years, with these entities owning significantly more exposure to less‐liquid investments than other insurers
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- wongarsu
Do they? Is a company with $200 billion annual revenue and earnings (EBITDA) of $100 billion having $420 billion of off-balance-sheet debt really staggering?
In many other industries that would be a perfectly normal amount of debt to have. It's only unusual because we are used to tech companies having so much cash on hand they don't know where to put it
- chasd00
Are they really "trying to hide" this debt? I think it's pretty common knowledge that a lot of these companies are using debt/bonds for funding. The debt not showing up where the author wants is a reporting formality not an attempt to hide it.
- FabHK
If you're talking about dodgy accounting at hyperscalers, a larger worry might be that they are overstating profits by depreciating their assets (such as datacenters and CPUs/GPUs) too slowly.
Estimates are that this could overstate profits by tens of percent. (However, this only allows earnings to be "pulled forward" - sooner or later the servers must be written off and the accounting catches up.)
See e.g. https://deepquarry.substack.com/p/depreciation-of-gpus-betwe...
https://www.ft.com/content/0dbfe94f-2136-432c-b075-4587092de...
Michael “The Big Short” Burry:
> Understating depreciation by extending useful life of assets artificially boosts earnings -one of the more common frauds of the modern era.
- JohnMakin
> Meta alone has amassed around $420 billion in off-balance-sheet debt, according to Nikkei,
Isn't this an existential type of bet?
- Havoc
Would have been nice if the article had any substantive facts in it
- andreygrehov
Is that why China pushing for open weight models? If these models are on par with the quality of the proprietary ones, the US stock market will go south fairly fast, imho.
- lardosaurusrex
"No you guys it isn't actually an issue because it isn't."
Why?
"Because it isn't; okay?!"
oh ok.
- jimnotgym
If I were nearing retirement and had a decent pension pot where I could control it in fine detail...I would be diversifying away from tech stocks and holding some cash for immediate needs. There probably won't be much time when it unravels...I wouldn't be over exposed to the Nasdaq 100, for instance. Although you could probably pick some AI safe companies out of it.
The real problem will be figuring out where all this debt is
- daishi55
Article appears to be conflating big tech companies that print money with AI startups like OpenAI and Anthropic.
After the opening paragraphs about the accounting practices of meta, Microsoft, alphabet, etc - which, it should be noted are not “houses of cards” and earn plenty of money - the article quietly transitions to
> Experts continue to warn of an AI bubble, noting the enormous and widening gulf between company valuations and their comparatively measly profits.
I think hoping people will apply the “house of cards” logic by that analyst they quoted to the startups, when instead the analyst was talking about the megacorps’ accounting.